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On Her New Podcast, Meghan Markle Talks Media Scrutiny, Kindness and Family


“I do think there is so much to be said for your ability to exist, even in the presence of that — it takes a very strong cookie,” Ms. Herd told Meghan, adding, “When I was going through the media storm and being called this and that, and this and that, at Tinder, I didn’t leave my house for, like, a month and a half.”

The women reflected on how they handled their professional stresses now, and Meghan said she had been preoccupied with the details around As Ever — specifically the packaging.

“For example, a month ago, I was absolutely consumed with packaging boxes,” Meghan said. “That’s all I could think about. And I would sit there doing the unboxing in my head.”

To escape similar loops, Ms. Herd said, she tries to ask herself if something will matter in five years.

“I think you have to really take a deep breath and say, ‘You know what, how big of a deal is this?’ she said. “If this is not going to be a defining issue in your business, your life, your family in five years, like, you’ll be fine.”

The women also discussed how their perspectives shifted after having children.

“I think being a mother, as you know, nothing comes before that,” Ms. Herd said, adding, “Their well-being is our well-being. And so I think it forces you to prioritize in ways that, for me, I never did before.”


“I do think there is so much to be said for your ability to exist, even in the presence of that — it takes a very strong cookie,” Ms. Herd told Meghan, adding, “When I was going through the media storm and being called this and that, and this and that, at Tinder, I didn’t leave my house for, like, a month and a half.”

The women reflected on how they handled their professional stresses now, and Meghan said she had been preoccupied with the details around As Ever — specifically the packaging.

“For example, a month ago, I was absolutely consumed with packaging boxes,” Meghan said. “That’s all I could think about. And I would sit there doing the unboxing in my head.”

To escape similar loops, Ms. Herd said, she tries to ask herself if something will matter in five years.

“I think you have to really take a deep breath and say, ‘You know what, how big of a deal is this?’ she said. “If this is not going to be a defining issue in your business, your life, your family in five years, like, you’ll be fine.”

The women also discussed how their perspectives shifted after having children.

“I think being a mother, as you know, nothing comes before that,” Ms. Herd said, adding, “Their well-being is our well-being. And so I think it forces you to prioritize in ways that, for me, I never did before.”

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